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. >> and to the point and avoid the fiscal cliff. >> kelly: but to mark's point, angela, senator mitch mcconnell is known for having good brinksmanship and getting it deal done. >> we're on the brink. >> that's what i said earlier in the interview, we're going to get a deal done, it's going to be because of mitch mcconnell and boehner working with the democrats that we don't go over the fiscal cliff, however, republicans are going to have to acquiesce, we will have some tax hikes, i think probably 750,000 and above i think that's the number, but what republicans are holding back the debt ceiling debate and cutti cutti cutting entitlement programs and they're going to use that later in the year. >> kelly: mark, the final word. >> if angela's prediction sort of come through-- and i hope it does, the republicans and senate negotiate, and republicans and congress will be responsible for the largest tax increst on all americans in modern american history and that would be unfortunate and soon talk about obama tax cuts when we talk about the middle class america. >> kelly: and the 113th congress comin
and people will blame the republicans if we two over the fiscal cliff i happen to believe they will blame everybody and the president is not going to escape liability for not leading us through this crisis, because after all, this is a manufactured crisis, created by the very people who are charged now it solve it to refuse to solve it. so they're just kicking the can down the road. let's not forget in 2013, we have another crisis looming and that is the debt ceiling. kelly: exactly right. let's remind people what this fiscal cliff is really all about. we're talking about automatic tax cuts that will go into place as well as drastic, draconian cuts in entitlement programs, medicare, and even the military. the military can suffer very greatly if this goes through the sequestration. if you look at all this, you realize something has got to be done, because $2,000 per average taxpayer will be added to them over the course of this year if they fail to do something, what is going to happen? what is your prediction, brad? >> well, my prediction is, that we're likely to go over the cliff because
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